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Online research
List links to web pages referencing Kampusch and the abduction here - we can use them to build the article over time. For ease of use, please do not sign additions to the list.
- Natascha Kampusch took a holiday with her captor
- Times Online — Transcript: Natascha Kampusch TV interview
- Video of her dungeon cabin by Bundeskriminalamt (Federal Criminal Police Office of Austria)
- English translation by International Herald-Tribune of open letter released by Kampusch on 28 August 2006
- Draft of the hidden room Kampusch lived in by APA
- Draft of the hidden room Kampusch lived in by Federal Criminal Police Office of Austria
- Natascha Kampusch passport-photo
- Natascha Kampusch - the first photo by NEWS
- Transcript of interview with Natascha Kampusch (German)
- Video stream. Extract of the interview (German)
- From Prisoner to Media Star: How Natascha Kampusch´s helpers try to manage the hype, in: Der Spiegel (English)
- A dark mystery The Times Online
- Natascha Kampusch says that her kidnaper was part of her life and that she hasn´t missed her youth (Spanish)
Austrian woman vs. Austrian girl
I changed the wording back to girl from woman due to the following:
- both quoted references use girl instead of woman
- googling 18-year old girl yields more results than 18-year old woman
- the girl article describes girls as young female humans and than later speaks of people aged 18 or under.
As she was abducted as a child, I think the emphasis should be put on her as a girl. And being 18 doesn't make her an adult everywhere, so one can't rely upon linguistic convention, either. nepTune 20:59, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
"Intentedly"?
As far as I know, "intentedly" is not a word of English. But what word is meant? The closest thing I can think of is "intentionally", but that's silly because of course the kidnapping was intentional. You can't accidentally kidnap someone. So what is meant? User:Angr 12:16, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
I think I will bold and delete until someone clarifies this!! --Slp1 12:20, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
The word does exist in English, but it's spelled "intendedly", here is a link to the word in dictionary.com: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=intendedly
Wolfgang Priklopil
There is now a stub at Wolfgang Priklopil to accept any elaborate Priklopil-specific information, should such here get too long. knoodelhed 05:55, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
Michel Fourniret
Michel fourniret is a FRENCH serial killer, altough he lived in Belgium and did his most kills in Belgium
Sick edit
To claim a 10 year old girl had voluntary sexual relations with her kidnapper is nothing less than paedophile apology and must be removed on sight as vandalism and slander of the worst kind from this article. El Rojo 04:28, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
When did she have sexual relation with her master? Not at age 10, but at later stage - there is no evidence that Mr. Prokopol ever raped anyone or was a peadophile. He was a kidnapper who was refused ransom, but instead of killing his captor, he held her prisoner and later sex slave.
This is the talk page for discussing changes to the Natascha Kampusch article.
Please do not use it as a forum for general discussion about the article's subject. A n d r e a s (T) 20:36, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Restraint needed
The victim now experiences a second tragedy, namely, that her case is dragged into the public and exploited to satisfy the curiosity of the masses. Therefore, to the benefit of Natascha and in spite of the mandate of Wikipedia to inform, I plead that we should show some restraint in the information we post in WP. In particular, statements like the one I just deleted are not only dubious regarding their truth, but are also detrimental to Natascha who now is trying to get her life back into track. A n d r e a s (T) 14:41, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Image
The layout image of the dungeon, secret room, whatever you wanna call it, has items labeled, but in German. I have very little German, but I could figure most of it. It should probably have an English translation-maybe somebody who can speak German could edit the image.
Přiklopil vs. Priklopil
All the media is using "Priklopil", no hacek. Indeed, his name is of Czech origin and in Czech language, it is spelled with a hacek, but Wolfgang Priklopil was Austrian and probably had absolutely nothing to do with the Czechs other than the name and some ancestry. Therefore, I think we should use the German spelling, i.e. with no hacek. bogdan 12:16, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Bias Inconsistent with Kampusch's own statements
I don't have time for a thorough read of this but scanning I'm rather annoyed that people are referring to the "dungeon." Dungeon is a characterization, and has no factual content, it's just trying to sneak in the same sort of polarization that's going on in the media right now where everyone discounts everything this woman says and attributes it to "stockholm syndrom." I've changed dungeon to "room" -- only the media have described the room as a dungeon (and "cramped" they always add), neither Kampusch nor investigators have characterized it as such.
I read somewhere that Natascha herself used the word "dungeon" a couple of times. Look up dungeon at dictionary.com, and you'll see that it is not an inaccurate word.
What happened to this article?
When I read it two days ago, it was much more comprehensible. Now it is riddled with grammar and syntax errors. Anchoress 09:02, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Well, that's what Wikipedia is all about-- making the comprehensible incomprehensible. Please update this article to include recent doubts about the veracity of the kidnapping. Perhaps a note about the fact that Natascha and her kidnapper went skiing in the Alps this winter. Wikicynic 01:16, 5 October 2006 (UTC)wikicynic
Pregnant
I've removed this:
This looks like very tabloidy stuff -- we *must* have a reliable source for something like this. — Matt 15:40, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Possibly illegal image
Statement of Attorney Maria Windhager: Ab dem Zeitpunkt, an dem klar war, dass sie wieder aufgetaucht ist - als die Bilder also nicht mehr quasi als Such- oder Fahndungsbilder dienen konnten - sei eine Veröffentlichung nicht mehr erlaubt gewesen - mögliche Strafen liegen pro Bild und Veröffentlichung über 10.000 Euro.
From the moment that it became clear that N.K reappeared, when the images were no more useful for searching, publication is no more permitted - possible fines can be Eur 10,000 and above A n d r e a s (T) 17:51, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Priklopil's Alibi
So far only one source has reported that Priklopil had an alibi, while most Austrian newspapers report the opposite. Someone added the information on the missing alibi just before my edit but left the "alleged he had an alibi" part in; I consolidated this a little more and put the statement on the alibi in parentheses. I would even consider removing it altogether.
The sentence "no other investigations are made by police at this place" seems to refer to the police conduncting no further investigations against Priklopil as a suspect; I merged that into the text and added a source for the lack of an alibi and Priklopil's explanation on why he had the minibus.
Flip-Flopping between Natascha and Kampusch
The article flip-flops between her first name or last name or both throughout, shouldn't it be somewhat consistent? Gdavidp1 04:21, 7 September 2006 (UTC):
Interview payment claims
In the Interview section is a piece that says "The newspaper Kronen Zeitung and news magazine NEWS have also interviewed Kampusch. The interview was published on September 6, 2006. Both press interviews were given in return for a package including housing support, a long-term job offer, and hel
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