Could we maybe get a better picture of the blue marlin?
The current format that I've been using for citations is based on the MLA citation:
The MLA is more like the following:
The APA is more like the following:
The reason I didn't purely follow the MLA was because doing underlines required me to use HTML, so I'd rather use WikiMarkup, so I italisized the title of the complete work (similar to how the APA does it). Other than that the existing way I did the citations was the same. In all cases above the handling of internet URL's in the format "URL: http://www.whatever.com" has been adapted from the correct "Retrieved on DATE from http://www.whatever.com".
Under the APA we should use something like the following:
Under the MLA:
Proposed Citation:
Personally I find the APA a bit cumbersome to use and a bit more inconsistent. The "template" that I have been using is an attempt at finding a single way to represent everything in an easy format, although it technically deviates from both formats. I much prefer the MLA style, but of course there is no set way to do things here, just that the citations happen. One major difference from the proposed citation format is the retrieved on date for ITIS. I think this is pretty important. Fishbase doesn't need it because the current version of the database is always given on the site and that is sufficient. It also adds the city/publisher which is required for proper citation. Despite my preference for the MLA, if the APA is what the consensus is, I will go with that too. -- Ram-Man 03:12, Dec 2, 2004 (UTC)
There's no on-line version of the Chicago Manual of Style, but I do have a quick-and-dirty guide based on it I put on line for a course (Guideline for Notes and Bibliography; it mentions Turabian, which is the students' "mini" Chicago). Chicago is a mammoth, comprehensive guide to all aspects of book and journal editing, typesetting, etc.
I think the person who "fixed" all the ITIS links is one of the anti-redirection zealots who goes through and changes all links to redirects; there are a few here.
As far as giving cities, we can guess Washington for ITIS—but a traceroute suggests that their server is in fact in Denver (that's the location of the last router before hitting their firewall). And where is FishBase? They have mirrors in Germany, France, Sweden, Taiwan, and the U.S., and DNS round-robin to send fishbase.org to any of them (I'm getting sent to Kiel, Germany, at the moment, even though I am in Arizona). Their home pages says FishBase was originally developed at the World Fish Center, which is headquartered in Penang, Malaysia, with the cooperation of FAO which is, IIRC, in New York City. I'm not opposed to giving a city in principle (and always would for something which had an unambiguous place of publication), but I think making one up or picking one at random for something which is published on servers around the world does not convey useful information.
As far as publisher goes, for both FishBase and ITIS the publisher is FishBase and ITIS, respectively. Full citations would be:
(N.p. is used for "no place" where no place of publication is indicated by the work.)
BTW, I can e-mail you a paper I'm working on which employs Chicago citation for a wide variety of sources. I can't post it on line, though, for copyright reasons. —Tkinias 20:35, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Question: Should this project cover only the Actinopterygii, or should it also include other taxa called "fish" -- the Chondrichthyes, Actinistia, Dipnoi, and maybe even Cephalaspidomorphi and Myxini? —Tkinias 08:46, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
So that I can continue to work on articles while we discuss citation format, I've created templates for the references. I will update the project page to explain their usage. For now, the text they produce is equivalent to my last suggested format, but that can of course be changed. —Tkinias 09:39, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
why not WikiProject Fish ? Pedant 02:05, 2004 Dec 7 (UTC)
I see that the project states to Categorize under either the common name or the scientific depending on circumstances.. I wonder why you do not categorize under both. For the casual user of wikipedia, the common name is often beneficial, but for a student doing a project, being able to follow links by the scientific taxonomy holds a lot of value. Because there are 2 classification schemes common and scientific, why not follow both? Sortior 23:12, Dec 26, 2004 (UTC)
I see this subject was last discussed two years ago, so sorry to revive it, but I do think it may need some consensus. I recently did some updating to the category to include the scientific names to the species in the category Tetraodontidae by adding the category link on the scientific name redirects. An inquiry was posted on my talk page asking about these actions. Following was my answer:
At any rate, my impression of the category is that it is a form of index, regardless if you’re a fisherman or a scientist or German. The scientific name, connects it all together and should necessarily be included in the index. As seems to be the case in just about every reference book I’ve ever come across. May I suggest that this be a matter of policy?Jnpet 07:09, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
I am currently working on an article on grunion. So far, I've only put up the beginnings of the article (intro + infobox) as a subpage of my User page (see User:BlankVerse/Grunion). If anyone has any suggestions about article organization, sources for images, etc. that would be greatly appreciated. Blank Verse ∅ 17:17, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Our articles on batoids were a bit of a mess (and still are to some extent), involving a mixture of several systems of classification. I've tried to clean them up so they all follow the FishBase system — three orders Rajiformes, Pristiformes and Torpediniformes — instead of a mix of that and McEachran's system (which has the stingrays, eagle rays and their relatives in Myliobatiformes). I've added some discussion of the different systems of classification.
I would be grateful if someone could check Batoidea and the articles it links to. If some system of batoid classification is generally thought to be better than FishBase then please say so.
I've made ray (fish) redirect to Batoidea rather than the other way round, to avoid the question of "are skates rays?" If that's wrong, please change it around. Gdr 20:25:36, 2005-08-15 (UTC)
I have just written and tested a robot that can read an article, find a taxobox, get the genus and species and add a reference link to fishbase. I have permission to run this for one weeks test and have successfully done so for some of the shark articles. If the taxobox does not contain both genus and species it does nothing. It should work for all fish articles also. The robot is User:StefanBot see edits to check pages it have changed. The bot have a few issues.
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