Angel Criss Free Learn Magic Mindfreak Trick
Angel Criss Free Learn Magic Mindfreak Trick
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The reference is a joke
The youtube video linked in reference 1 is some kind of poorly done amateur video.76.183.169.130 (talk) 23:03, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
<centerr>Article would totally benefit from some cool expansion
If anyone has some real cool information to post, with citable sources, ' be bold!' I'll be on the lookout for some information to make the wiki a bit meatier; frankly it's not as indepth or interesting as it could be. 24.251.84.221 08:48, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
This article was copied from his website
- This article is clearly not from a neutral point of view, it reads like a website written by the shows producer as an advertisement. It's almost like this was copied and pasted from the shows website. OH WAIT IT WAS. http://www.crissangel.com/dvd_tv/data/generic_site/crissangel/dvd_tv/tv.html I copied an entire paragraph from the article and googled it... Look at what I found. This article should be deleted and re written from the bottom up. It's probably also a violation of the copyright on the Criss Angel website.
Take almost any whole paragraph from the article and try it yourself.
Reading Comprehension
"Contrary to publically insisting that his magic feats are possible as a result of meditation, some allege that Angel uses camera special effects, forced viewing angles and assistants acting as amazed spectators for the tv audience."
Sounds like someone edited the original, but didnt pay attention to what the original was saying. Someone who knows what it should be want to fix it? --ThreadbareSock 20:06, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Multiple images
Does the page really need two copies of the same image? Laundrypowder 02:47, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
- That's weird. The images are technically different files...I wasn't really paying attention to them when I started to edit the page or I would have dealt with that. Ah well, I'll deal with it now then. One of them has been deleted. Maybe we should try to find a screnshot from the show to replace it? (If we can do that without a copyright issue, mind.) ] 19:18, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
Possibly a joke?
About halfway down, someone copy and pasted the text of the first paragraph, changing "Mindfreak" to "Buttleak".
Oh. And they slaughtered the episode list.
Fixed on 1/05, reverted to the version directly before the vandalism.
Tricks?
There is no mention of any attempts to discover the "how'd he do it"s on this page.
While its not required that we do this, I think its easy to say people do vioce their opinions, or have broken down how these stunts are performed.
I do know myself that a lot of people here must be staged, after all in one episode of Mindfreak he makes a woman disappear without re-materializing her, something all magicians seem to do unless its a staged actor.
I already have one figured out, in a part of episode "Vanish," he makes a cat disappear. This has been done before; the cat was actually pushed through a side portion of the box and then pulled off the table by one of the crew. The box (containing the cat) itself was then moved off camera by both the camera's movement and the stage hand, who pulls it back to himself behind the little coverage the table provides.
Another is where he tries to pull up a manhole cover. Notice the changing of the cameras? After the last "pull" of the same slide, which is actually soundbite over the plastic "handle," it rolls up. The real manhole is nw behind the camera.
Still trying to figure out the levitation though.
Camera tricks
User DannyDunn (talk/contribs) recently changed the content of the introductory paragraph entirely (diff). He also did a similar edit at Criss Angel (diff). He seems to be driving the idea that the tricks by Criss Angel are mere camera tricks with a sold-in audience members. The changes were made to the articles without any past discussion, which is why I'm creating this chapter in the discussion page in the hopes explanations will be added. --Bisqwit 02:33, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Some proof of camera tricks
Yes indeed Criss uses mostly camera tricks that are performed in front of audiences that are all in on it. His editing has become so sloppy you can even see the camera tricks exposed in his videos.
In this video you can see scratch marks on the pavement made by the manhole cover he removes. The camera cuts away from the manhole cover to show Criss, later when the camera pans down the scratch marks are no longer there because you are looking at a fake manhole cover. The real cover is a few feet off camera yet you are forced ( via forced camera perspective) to ONLY see the fake cover that he peels off the ground. http://www.metacafe.com/watch/176801/criss_angel_crawls_out_of_a_storm_drain/ If you were there in person you'd see how it really works.
Take a look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRR30Tll6wY&search=chris%20angel and you'll see a particpant running away from the camera with a stick. You will see him use the stick at 2:42 in the video and then he is seen running off camera in the background later. Why would anyone run from such a cool trick..shouldn't he be amazed like the rest of the crowd if they were seeing a real trick .Read all the comments posted for more details. This is one example of MANY things that are so ovious when you pay attention.
In the walking thru glass stunt he says to the camera man.. " Don't cut away..keep one continuous shot" but after the glass is examined the camera zooms up on his shoes as he unties them. The glass is moved then ..off camera while we are forced to look at his shoes. Everyone else there saw the switch yet they all act impressed. If we had been standing there we would have seen how it was really done.
Here is Criss himself explaining how one works. This trick was featured on MindFreak but only looked good from the cameras point of view as people on the street would all see how its done. http://www.yourdailymedia.com/media/1142851570/Chris_Angel_Reveals_His_Secrets
Here is yet another example... view this video ( listen closely to what he say to the girl) and then read the comments below. http://www.dumpalink.com/post/1127379217/Chris_Angel%5Cs_ButterFly_Trick then watch the video again. The proof is all there.
Look Here http://www.metacafe.com/watch/30413/chris_angel_on_fire/ and you'll notice many of the people in the crowd are in a different position when Criss reappears than they were when he vanished. ( much easier to spot on a video tape or DVD compared to web videos )The camera was cut and restarted after he changed costumes. The fire extriguishers were used to help cover the edit point. Again... ovious when you look close enough.
Its good viewing and lots of fun to watch but its not reality television as previous stated in the article. Its not even magic... its scripted fiction complete with editing, actors and special effects. DannyDunn
- Your argument about Criss's levitation and how it would only look good from the cameras point of view and how all people on the street would see how it is done, is completly wrong. The illusion is SUPPOSED to be viewed behind Criss's back. As long as he is able to control the crowd and watch his angles, there is no way the spectators will see how it is done. Plus, the camera is viewing it from the spectators point of view as well.
Sounds like you are not a magaican so you wouldnt know that there are illusions that only look good from certain angles. It also seems as if you think that real magicians have real magical powers and since criss angel doesnt have any of that, he uses camera trickery on all his illusions. --Red monkey 21:49, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
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All these are purely speculative, and cannot be proven one way or the other that he actually uses camera tricks to perform his stunts on the show, especially when countless other magicians who have had their tricks televised has used the same or similar tricks without being accused of using camera effects. For instance, David Blaine levitates in front of a full audience on the streets just like Criss (in effect, if not in technique), yet no one accuses him of making use of camera tricks to achieve the effect. What about
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