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Protopic
I would like to see some mention of newer treatments such as Protopic.
I may come back and add something about these.
--bodnotbod 21:01, Apr 28, 2004 (UTC) Colloidal oatmeal (eg Dermaveen) treatment appears valuable.
Herb Medicine
I hugest you use herb medicine, because there is no overdose, side effects, and no bad stuff. i have eczema. Herb medicene is what cured me 2 times in a row from long-term outbreaks and from the rash covering 100% of my body to 25%. XU-engineer 13:25, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
Herbal Cure
Quoted From "The Cure For All Diseases" by Hulda Clark, PH.D., N.D.Reprint 2006 "Psoriasis and eczema are both caused by Ascaris . Their molting chemicals are quite allergenic; perhaps it is these that are affecting the skin. Since pets pick these worms up daily, there is chronic reinfection in families with pets. Herbal Parasite Programe- Balckwalnut Tincture, Wormwood, Cloves. Take over a 18 day period as prescribed by Herbalist/ Naturpath. Put in place a Maintainance Parasite Programe. 29/8/08Raefon72 (talk) 21:34, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
other cures
Vanos
Vanos is a very strong medicine, usually used in moderate-to severe eczema. XU-engineer 13:25, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
cloderm
Like Vanos, but cures mild eczema. XU-engineer 13:25, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
Atopiclair
Atopiclair is non-steroidal lotion used to cure very mild eczema. XU-engineer 13:25, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
post these on the article itself if you guys want to.
Immunomodulators may cause cancer
Apparently, some US government scientists think Immunomodulators used to treat eczema can cause cancer of the immune system. One quick question, does Betamethasone have anything to do with this?
- Short answer: No.
- Long answer: The immunomodulators (pimecrolimus & tacrolimus) probably have a tiny risk for longterm use (possibly by inhibiting the normal immune systems ability to remove some abnormal cells). However any chronic inflammatory condition (e.g. dermatitis), by the very nature of the increase in cell activity and replication, has a small risk of causing cancer too (see Bowen's disease). Steroids are not considered to have such risk, but used to excess may cause skin thinning (atrophy), absorption into the body causing bone demineralisation (osteoporosis) and may make skin infections more likely (fungal) or worse (viral). The dramatic improvement in patients' well being (the severe distress to children who are badly affected) needs be borne in mind when deciding whether to treat or not. -David Ruben 14:31, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
Name
Surely this is more commonly known as eczema. — Chameleon 13:54, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I agree. Johnleemk | Talk 15:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Me too. JFW | 20:43, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose . Both names seem common to me and Google seems to agree. Without some stronger argument I'd rather stick with the name the original author chose. Dragons flight July 3, 2005 11:16 (UTC)
- Support . Dermatitis is a very generic term, as skin inflammation can occur as part of many conditions, but this article seems to be about eczema in general, if I understand things correctly. Perhaps a separate article should be written about dermatitis in general, sort of a broad summary article. I'll ask one of my dermatology friends if she can clarify at all. — Knowledge Seeker দ 4 July 2005 07:58 (UTC)
This article has been renamed after the result of a move request. violet/riga (t) 20:49, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
===Diagnosis Info===
The text concerning eczema diagnosis comes from MediPrimer:Eczema Primer. As the copyright holder of that website, I authorize the use of this text under the GFDL as part of Wikipedia. Yashka78 20:01, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
The last paragraph of the diagnosis section rather unclear.
Eczema and detergents
This new section has some shortcomings: (1) it addresses the reader, (2) the references are interspersed with the text instead of using footnotes. Could I ask the contributor to pay attention to this? JFW | 22:57, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
General Notes and Discussion
It would be cool to see a discussion about the actual physiological underpinnings of this ailment, i.e. what is my skin actually doing that is causing me these problems? I don't know if this article is the right place for it, as the focus is (apparantly and appropriately) issues fo concern to patients.
Suggestions for Cleanup
Re-reading this article, I have to concluded its in a bit of a mess. In particular the 'Eczema and detergents' and 'Traditional remedies' sections need a drastic pruning rewrite. The latter half of the article reads like an overly familiar, poorly designed, health leaflet rather that a well-constructed encyclopaedic entry.
- Advice not to use soap/detergents gets mentioned 3 times
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re 'How to use soap when one must'
- It is mostly a duplication of the information in the preceding 'Moisturizing' section.
- The bit about not using lotions is wrong - the advice is of no soap/detergent, a soap-free lotion is fine (being effectively a moisturising cream with added water)
- The suggestion about not using "any kind of ..... only if your doctor tells you to" is nonsense - no GP knows what any given soap manufacturer puts in their products, I advice patients to use a moisturising cream as a soap substitute or a non-soap moisturising wash bar, and with the advice given, I expect people to exercise some degree of common sense & caution on trying out products. I would be furious with WP if, on the basis of this article, a patient were to phone me from their local supermarket seeking advice about the dozens of soap bars displayed in front of them. This type of phrase is all too often seen and is rather infantile.
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re 'Traditional remedies'
- It twice duplicates information on oats/oatmeal, both in that it appears in the list and in the rather wordy description, all of which was more succinctly mentioned previously in the 'Moisturizing' section.
- There is a huge list of remedies listed, most of which have no corresponding article, but which gives almost as much page length as the various aspects of the standard step-wise approach. Why not list just a few examples (for which there are links) in the form of a single sentence ?
I suggest a rewrite (which I'm happy to do), but being unilaterally bold without some prior discussion is probably unwise given that quite a few people have contributed to this article over some time... so I welcome anyone’s comment (positive or negative) to the points above and the direction this article needs to follow. I'll then do a rewrite in about a week; this is a wiki so my humble attempt could always be reverted :-) David Ruben Talk 01:35, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
The entire article is a bit of a mishmash. It mirrors the state of eczema understanding and treatment -- huge disagreement among patients and practitioners alike, with lots of misinformation and myths among both. I made a few contributions, but I couldn't clean things up without starting over and seriously deleting much of what's there. My first suggestion would be to break out the different types of eczema into categories, and under each type-heading list credible theories about cause along with suggested prevention/treatment for each. Often recommendations completely conflict -- I disagree even with some of the suggestions made to fix this section -- but this is what happens in the real world, so the article should just be up front about that and list different typical recommendations, even though they conflict. That would allow new contributors to flesh out the entire state of understanding about eczema, conflicts and all. Photos of each type would be great. Another section with relevant topics and links to the research articles might work better than footnotes. For example, one topic might be eczema and probiotics (probiotics given to pregnant women reduce the incidence of eczema in infants significantly). Another topic might be eczema and hard/soft water (studies show less eczema where the water is soft versus areas that have hard water). Well-know pediatrician author T. Berry Brazelton suggests in his bestselling book Touchpoints that virtually all eczema can be prevented -- and backs this up with decades of practice -- perhaps another topic might be prevention, with links to different references and articles regarding prevention. There is a long list of topics that deserve some mention in an article about eczema, such as the "atopic march" -- the tendency for persons with eczema to develop asthma. Again, having such a heading would allow contributors to add major topics without having to rewrite the whole article.
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