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To archive an article from the disputes page, check over the dispute, and see if any enforcement is necessary. For instance, if a discussion results in 5 editors for delisting an article and 1 against, then delist the article as you archive it. If a dispute is close, for instance, an approximately even amount of editors taking a side, try to make a new comment rather than archiving, to see whether the dispute should continue. Make sure not to archive active discussions, a good rule is to not archive anything that has a comment less than a week old, unless a resolution has been posted to the discussion. An exception to this rule involves disputes which have a clear outcome in these ways: There is at least an 80 percent majority to do something with an article, there are at least 6 votes, and at least three days have passed since the article was nominated for review.

Archived Disussions

Michael Jackson

Result: Keep 6-1

Lead is too long, given the amount of time the article's editors have had to fix this issue since it was last raised. Removing extraneous text is simple and this article has been like it for what I would say was an unacceptable time-span for how long an article should be allowed to sit with issues before being delisted (2 months, anyone?).

I personally feel the article's main editor (UberCryxic) is resisting all change other than he himself makes, whilst this is... unhelpful, I don't (to be honest) care. The fact (and my only grievance) is it makes the article non-GA worthy in this case. The editor seems to be charged with a polarised viewpoint and it shows in the current version of the article.

The GA approved version: and the current: . Is this article GA status? I don't feel it has that neutral quality it once possessed, it's got too many album covers and other non-free images. It sucks.

Personal attempts to shrink the lead/effect basic changes due to lack of attribution for the claims made were reverted by the main current contributor (UberCryxic) (note how this reversion of his reintroduces completely unsourced libel material about him being a part of a circuit involving prostitutes that has no source). Previous attempts to delist article (by another editor) were also stonewalled by by the same contributor "discussion closed in next edit with comment "Michael Jackson - Archiving Michael Jackson: Current discussion shows no hope of consensus. Vote is 5-4 after SIX weeks of discussion. Maintain status quo (keep).)".

The version actually given GA status is nothing like this version either (notice the much shorter, definately more neutral lead - although that article also does not meet GA status requirements). The majority of editors to that version appear to have left editing duties of the article after UberCryxic joined.

Homestarmy, Nehrams2020, Quadzilla99 and LaraLove all pointed out the overlength of the lead in the previous review. This was not rectified. I previously ceased editing May 06 - May 07, on the basis I would make an more balanced attempt to take wikipedia forward on my return. This article has actually gone backwards in that time (unlike my favorite band article, Megadeth). I think we should revert to the GA status version of November linked to previously within my statement, although I would still advocate its delisting in that case until it really does meet the criteria which the November version also did not. That is not a condition of delisting (as if I am in a position to dictate, or to care to), although if you would support that move I'd ask that you state it, so we're in the clear, consensus wise on my idea to perhaps move forwards (even if it does seem like moving backwards). --Manboobies 23:16, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Comment This article just finished a GA review, no less than two weeks or so ago I believe. The result was to keep its GA status. As such, this second effort so quickly is completely null and void. Wait a few more months, preferrably three or four, before you renominate so as to give the editors a good opportunity to grapple with the issues raised in the previous nomination.UberCryxic 01:40, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

If that is the case, then that particular request should have been made in the talk page of the article, which is what I suggested to the user. Everything aside, however, this article simply should not be here at this moment; that is, undergoing a GA review.UberCryxic 02:19, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

This is all not mentioning the fact that the original version that was promoted to GA status was quite atrocious, stylistically, encyclopedically, and in every other way. Ample evidence can be found in the archives of the talk page detailing the reasons for the changes. The original version became a GA article because of copious citations, but little else.UberCryxic 02:21, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Comment While I too think the lead is laughably overlong, this article really shouldn't be here for the reasons Uber stated. I've never liked the idea of blanket reverting back to another version it basically undoes all the work people have done to an article over a course of time and is disrespectful in my view, it's like saying "Sorry but all your work was useless". Quadzilla99 02:26, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment I agree with Quadzilla99. If this is not about delisting the article, as you state, then this is not the place for it. I would have liked to have seen this brought up on the talk page, discussing your opinions and remedies, before bringing it to here. I also feel that more time should be given before resubmitting it to a GAR. -- M PD T / C 03:01, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment I see no reason NOT to have another GA review, since the result of the last review was NOT "consensus keep". It was kept as a default. There was NO CONSENSUS, which is not the same as a "keep". The result was keep, but the discussion was deadlocked and thus closed and kept by default; not because there was a consensus that the article was GA quality. I am voting to Delist myself, for the following reasons:
    • Lead isn't well written. There shouldn't be new information in the lead, which is not covered elsewhere in the article, and this one has MUCH of that. The lead isn't really a summary.
    • As long as it is, the referencing is spotty in places, for example:
      • Most of 1958–1979: Early life and career
      • The last paragraph of 1979–1982: Off the Wall era
      • The first paragraph of 1982–1986: Thriller era
      • The second paragraph of 1991–1994: Dangerous era
      • The second paragraph of 1995–2000: HIStory era and Blood on the Dance Floor
      • Several paragraphs of 2001–2003: Invincible era (there's even a citation needed tag)
    • As a whole, the article is QUITE bloated. Much of the information on individual albums should be confined to the ALBUM articles rather than the ARTIST article. Plus, the organization is hard to follow as it doesn't really segregate his personal life from his professional one; they are really two narratives that need to be told separately and the way this article is organized makes it hard to follow. The way it jumps from paragraph to paragraph intertwining album and song reviews with personal life story makes it difficult for the reader to parse.
    • The image in the lead MAY be a problem, since it is NOT the image made by the US government. It is a derivative image, edited from a US government work, and I am not sure how it works. Its inclusion MAY be kosher, but the liscencing tag implies that THIS image is a work of the federal gov't. It isn't. The images was created by someone else by modifying the work of the gov't, and thus is the work of THAT person. Something needs clearing up to make that more clear.

Jayron, your initial argument is absolutely irrelevant. Even if you try to sugarcoat the result as "no consensus" or whatever, you're still left with the fact that....there was no consensus. In light of that fact, it is best to wait some time before making such a quick renomination. We are all more than happy to consider all of your points and those of Manboobies, but in the talk page of the article, not in a hasty and inappropriate GA review.UberCryxic 03:05, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

And for something else: we can actually use this "GA review" as a vehicle for improving the article (kind of like a peer review), but bear in mind that there will be no such things as votes or what have you. It's too soon for that. The votes have no authority with this GA review because its very existence is faulty and misguided.UberCryxic 03:07, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Please no strawmen arguments. Don't try to get an upper hand in this process by throwing around wild claims. I am more than willing to seriously consider a GA review at the appropriate time. Now is clearly not the appropriate time. It is a long-standing tradition in Wikipedia that if something fails to gain consensus, it is best to wait some time before making another major push. In fact, I would just like to direct your attention to this article's FA nominations (the third one is here). After a fairly quick renomination, some reviewers explicitly told the nominating user that more time has to be allotted to address the concerns that were raised in the previous discussions. The same thing has to happen here now. We can't just have a GA review two week

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